old hippie; i will agree that the elders in the 1st century churches in the bible were aproved or apointed by the holy sprit... but for one to put forth , that the jw elders are showing the fruits of the gospel ... is FAR OUT.... REMEMBER THAT PHARSE? first off the wt is teaching a false gospel.. so according to thwe bible god has nothing to do with any jw ..except to condemn the wt as false teachers... it is that simple... that was a great jw line of crap you gave ,, when the words of the wt are TESTED.. IN THE LAST 2 YEARS of new wt's i have read dozens of times were the wt is saying the elders are apointed by the HOLY SPRIT.. how you must follow their direction like that of the fds or as if it was from jehovah himself. etc. i'm sorry i did not write down the pages ... but if you want to press the issue i can look it up.. the jw elders are suppose to be spritual leaders of the flock... the only place these jw's are leading their flock with the beattings and punishment they dish out for not working hard enough for the false christ the wt is to the lake of fire... i have never once met a elder that can prove that the wt was choosen by jesus in 1919 or at any time.. and they never call me back or want another study with me.. and i tell them get any jw they want .. i show them that the wt is just one snowball of lies rolling down the mountain.... jesus said you cannot get good fruit from a rotten tree... well the wt has been rotton since 1879... the wt is like a conterfeit 100 dollar bill... it looks good till you take it to the bank, after it is tested you walk out of the bank without a PENNY....JOHN
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Elder Lou Anguiano Ordered to Stand Trial
by Nathan Natas inhttp://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/news/stories/20030208/localnews/944157.html .
saturday, february 8, 2003 .
trial ordered for jehovah's elder.
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Elder Lou Anguiano Ordered to Stand Trial
by Nathan Natas inhttp://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/news/stories/20030208/localnews/944157.html .
saturday, february 8, 2003 .
trial ordered for jehovah's elder.
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Buster ; let me say you know i'm with the lord and you on this.. and it is coming out in public now.. big crap here in new york today . about how thwe catholic church , in long island are getting banged from the gov't for 45 years of cover up ... new laws are coming.... tHat will cover the jw's and other churches.... the holy sprit is working..... no one will hurt anyone of my family... i will fix them. i'm not scared of the courts either... i will not do nothing immoral. i have tried to innocolate my family as best as i can.... keep doing your part, and hopefully we all together can make a change ... what ever each own methods are.....john
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" Only few words, but many lies" pa...
by MacHislopp inmake their own decision based on an informed conscience.
a personal decision
) civilian servitude as a substitute for military service would be just as objectionable to the christian.
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thanz Mac; in the last year i almost forget , the bloodguilt and un warenteed suffering the wt has imposed on young men tho out the world... i have read other sites were they say 1000's of years of life was wasted in jail for this bull crap... in italy etc.....i am so pissed ... i don't know how i let this info excape my mind in the last few months...the jw's better watch out cause i'm bringing this info into back into the SPOTLIGHT.... this is a human rights issue. i can't write no more
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Visit from Elder re: doctrine !!!!!
by Iron Eagle inhi folks .
does anybody remember a while back i posted a topic concerning jesus mediatorship ?
i asked if anybody could show me quotes from the watchtower that state that jesus only acts as mediator towards the 144,000 .
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iron eagle;;; very good ,,,, trust me , go with what ever you know to bang the wt.... and hold them to it. at all costs don't let them out of the box...and don't be nice , stand your ground if you like to work 1914...hold them on it.... but say you want proof from wt books up till 1914 only .... that's all i want to study lets start a 2 year study on russells books....duh... lets go to egypt and measure the pyramids. duh ,,,, lets talk about 1776, 80 1798-99 1829 1831 , 1844.45 65 1872,73,1874 .75 78,81 1905-07 1910-12 1914, 1915 etc get out the studies in the sciptures,,, i want to study the roots of the tree of the wt... jesus said that a tree with rotten roots can not bare good fruit... was that tree thrown in the fire in 1914 or before that... go into the quack medicine the wt was teaching then... . say lets get out the telescope, so we can see jehovah on the planet ancloyne.... get out the tape measure and offer to measure their head to see if they are qualified to to the preaching work , let them know that if black people pray hard enough god will make them white,,,, the list goes on and on ... show them NO QUARTER!!!!!... STAY ON THE SUBJECT.... and always ask over and over was any of this WORSHIP THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO JEHOVAH..... I FACT never let them talk just pound the shit out of them.... and say next time you come, you better have some of those old books to BACK UP THAT RUSSELLS WAS THE FDS....... WITH THIS TYPE OF NONSTOP ARGUEMENT... you can knockout the whole hall ,, in one shot.. this would be a good talk in front of the whole cong. freedom in christ .........john
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Climbing the Walls
by Sargon ini've been planning this for 4 months, well sort of.
the planning took 5 minutes the procrastination has taken up the rest of the time.
after 26 years of indulging, i've finally tried to quit smoking.
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elsewhere ; i never thought of it ,, i should become a jw that will give me 6 months ..... to die.... it might work ..... if the cig's don't kill me in 6 months .... the state will give me the electric chair for killing them.... you had me rolling.... thank you.... i can't stop smoking either ,, and the web makes me puff more..... john
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I'm 67 Today
by Undecided ini was born 67 years ago, it was the coldest feb 10 since that day.
i heard this on the radio.
it was about 4 miles from where i live in eden in an upstairs room in my mother's parents home.
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hAPPY BIRTHDAY''''''' ''''''' ''''''' ************ HAPPY BIRTHDAY********* TELL YOU WHAT I'LL BUY YOU A CAKE FOR THE PARTY !!!!!!YA YA YA ..... BUT I WILL NOT KILL THE BAKER><><><:<:
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Elder Lou Anguiano Ordered to Stand Trial
by Nathan Natas inhttp://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/news/stories/20030208/localnews/944157.html .
saturday, february 8, 2003 .
trial ordered for jehovah's elder.
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what was all those wt's i read in the last few years,,,, that THE ELDERS ARE APOINTED BY THE HOLY SPRIT..... APOINTED BY WHO????? THE GOD IN BROOKLYN, SAYS THE HOLY SPRIT..... WHO???? HOLY SPRIT.... ALL JW LERKERS HERE .... your punishment from god is to write 1000 times .... jw elders are apointed by the HOLY SPRIT..... THAT ASSIGNMENT WILL BE DO BY TOMORROW.... Buster i see your point. let all here praise god god that it did not go any further.... so it seems now like the holy sprit is working through the superior authorites..... sounds like god is sick and tierd of these churches ,, using his name in vain.... i.m waiting for this girl and family to get df'ed i say one year give or take a month.... i got a six pack on that.... what are the odds.... john
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The WBTS is NOT "God's Organisation"!
by SpannerintheWorks indoes " god " make mistakes?
does the wbts make mistakes?
this is the wbts excuse:.
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johnny cip
thank you Franios; it makes me happy to see that i'm not the only one willing to blast the jw's right out of the water... and they HATE IT... they can dish it out, but can't take it !!! when i talk to them , i show them NO QUARTER....NONE.. yesterday i went to a hall and whipped an elder and a few jw's for an hour.... then i went home and telephone witnessed every jw who's phone # i have.... i was so hot, all day. now i read your beautiful essay, and i'm ready to go out today and confront them on the aveune... after they finish at the kingDUM HUT... THANZ again for the incouragement....john
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kh elder wipeout today!!
by johnny cip inmy brother set up a study last week with an elder in the kh library in westchester n.y. for today ...with the question prove that jesus choose the wt in 1919.... and my brother told him to be ready!!!
well he didn't go but i did .. and they were waiting for us... i was very nice , but direct and i gave them no quarter.. so i start off well you got the question already where is your proof.... i pull out a wt quote , so what does the record show????
lets go over it... i came in with a shopping bag full of wt's books and bibles etc... they start panicing with what's in the bag...lol so they try to say it's a progressive study and he wants to go into the new knowledge book ... i pull one out of the bag.
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hi why hideit; no it didn't go that way I stopped them from the start.... i never let them get out of the box... i don't play with false teachers ... i put them in the hol;e from the start.... i never let them out of the hole .....the wt is god;s sprited directed org.... they can't win ... i know too much... in 3 years not one jw can touch me.... and there's MANY who know much more than me..... i will study any book the elders want ..... but be ready when i find holes in them........ bottom line i hunt out elders etc who are supposed to be choosened by by the holy sprit ... and i bust them from the word GO!!!!!!!!!!!! IF MORE x jw's here would put them in their place ,right out of the box ther would not be all this bulll i read here///////freedom in christ
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kh elder wipeout today!!
by johnny cip inmy brother set up a study last week with an elder in the kh library in westchester n.y. for today ...with the question prove that jesus choose the wt in 1919.... and my brother told him to be ready!!!
well he didn't go but i did .. and they were waiting for us... i was very nice , but direct and i gave them no quarter.. so i start off well you got the question already where is your proof.... i pull out a wt quote , so what does the record show????
lets go over it... i came in with a shopping bag full of wt's books and bibles etc... they start panicing with what's in the bag...lol so they try to say it's a progressive study and he wants to go into the new knowledge book ... i pull one out of the bag.
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yes reporter; it sucks when a 65 yr old jw' can't out bulls++t a 7 yr old kid.... that's my focus now , in my family ,, see my siblings want a baby sitter... but dad wants to take them into the fs and the kh so it's a fight thaT my siblings know that i'm right about the wt.. but they want that free time... funny hiow theyn are all goimg bowling now on sundays and the kids can't go into fs no more....no body wants to fight with with me or my dad the jw... but they know in their hearts the wt is full of crap.. all the black and blues we got for not sitting straight at the hall..... i'll keep letting the kids beat grampa on why he will not come to parties. etc. inside i know it's killing dad the jw , how the kids are bird feed for the birds in crooklyn.....etc,..........